Earth's Axis has changed

February 19, 2016

2-2016 Spring & Fall sun positions

Filed under: axis change — mmc7 @ 9:30 pm

There seems to be a great deal of confusion about the sun during the Spring & fall months. The equinox dates are Sept 23rd & Mar 21st.

Despite the axis shift which depending on the year, has extended the tropic of cancer 850-2000 miles (depending on the year) north of its normal position in mid Mexico on June 21st the summer solstice and 850-2000 miles south of the tropic of Capricorn during the winter solstice on Dec 21st… that means the equator is still the midpoint despite the axis shift. The amount of the shift will alter the sun position equally north in the Summer and to its opposite & equal position to the south in December. This is due to the way we orbit the sun at a tilt. Even with an exaggerated or increased tilt, the sun is the same distance too far north during June as it is the same equal distances too far south in December.

This means the equator is still midpoint between the two tropics. This also means that the sun is directly over the equator on March 21st and September 23rd. This was also the same midpoint when the axis was normal. So no matter how much the axis shifts, it will always measure the same over the equator in March and Sept. equinoxes. During the spring & fall months the sun travels between the tropics of Capricorn & Cancer crossing the equator on the equinox dates I mentioned above. It performed this journey the same way before 2000 Y2K or now. And still does so whether the axis tilt & tropic lines were normal or whether each tropic line had shifted 850-2000 miles beyond their normal tropic lines with the increased axis shifts & tilt. The difference before Y2K was the shorter distance the sun traveled between the two tropic lines. After the axis shift that distance of travel increased. For instance, when the earth shifted 850 miles to the north, the sun traveled an extra 1700 miles between the 2 increased tropic lines but was always over the equator on the spring & fall equinoxes.

So it does not mean a thing if you measure the sun position or axis now. Because the sun during the spring & fall equinoxes will be the same no matter what the axis tilt is. So if you go outside & measure the sun position & shadows during the spring & fall months it means nothing. This is because of the way earth orbits the sun at a tilt. This was taught in 3rd grade science.

The only 2 dates which are meaningful in measuring the sun position are June 21st for those of us who live in the northern hemisphere and December 21st for those of you who live in the southern hemisphere.

I may have to adjust the solstice measuring dates because our position has altered from what it was.

This June, we need to take measurements on both June 20th & 21st.

December is still the 21st. Both equinoxes occur a day early in 2016.

In 2017 & 2018 both solstices will again occur on June 21st & Dec 21st… if we can believe the sources.

One other item concerns comparing sun position over certain spans of years. Most of the axis shifts occurred after 2003. Before 2007. Between 2007 & 2013 only a couple small shifts occurred. For several years it remained at the same position. So if you compared the wrong years, there were no changes at all. Then then was the huge increase between 2013 & 2014. Then the significant reversal between 2014 and 2015,

I’ve measured the changes every year since 2006 but I caution everyone to be careful not to compare the wrong months or wrong year. Otherwise you will make erroneous comparisons. The earth does not shift every year. Nor can you see the shifted sun position during the spring & fall months. There have been several people jumping the gun who are trying to compare the sun position this month, so it appears I need to explain why it cannot be done in spring or fall. Only the solstice dates can provide the info we need.

Only June 21st for the Northern Hemisphere annual measurement. This year will be June 20th & 21st. Then Dec 21st for those in the southern hemisphere to measure.

These are the two days of the year when the sun is the farthest north and farthest south, indicating when it is directly over the tropics of Cancer & Capricorn. And how far beyond those lines it has traveled due to the axis shift.


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  1. Intuitively (I live in England) dawn takes longer to get light in Autumn than in Spring. You say the exact distance between the Sun and Earth at my latitude of 53.5 degrees North is the same in miles? Then why is the LIGHT different in the way it feels in Autumn than in Spring?


    Comment by Peter T> — October 11, 2018 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

    • I never said such a thing for the UK. Most of my comments are for the US. If it is UK oriented it is stated as such. One of our other viewers mentioned 53 azimuth degrees in regard to the moon position. But I can’t remember a single time I ever quoted 53 degrees on any subject other than the conversation from another site viewer.

      Nor did I mention 53 degrees in the 2 year old post you are commenting on. And I never spoke about specific distance between the sun and the earth on that article or even on other articles except in general concern over possible changes in orbit under certain conditions which this article didn’t address. I certainly never quoted miles from the sun. Those were miles on the earth north of the tropics. Physical miles driving. My only purpose of that article was to explain why they could only get accurate measurements and see the changes of the sun position except on the Summer solstice June 21st for the northern hemisphere. That neither equinox would show those changes accurately if they tried to measure the sun. We are only following the changes on the summer solstices for each hemisphere since I don’t own a solar observatory.

      You seem to be confused or want to engage in debate over non-existent issues. Not on this site. There are plenty other sites which will provide info you are looking for.

      You are most welcome to visit other sites which agree with you.


      Comment by mmc7 — October 12, 2018 @ 9:14 am | Reply

  2. If the axis is indeed shifting, then what do you think are the short and long term implications for the climate in different parts of the US, as well as elsewhere in the world? If there was actually a pole shift, how would the US be positioned on the globe? Could you possibly show a drawing of a what you think the geography of the planet would look like post polar shift? I found your blog because I was trying to figure out why it looked like the sun was rising significantly farther north than I ever remembered it rising near the summer solstice several years ago. At the time I felt so confused. From what I’ve read on your blog, it doesn’t appear that I was just imagining things. Thanks.


    Comment by Rob — February 22, 2016 @ 7:46 pm | Reply

    • My best advice would be to use Google Earth. Then you can tilt the earth in any direction you wish & look at it from any angle. Remember, when it comes to weather there are a lot of variables which affect it.

      It is easier for those of us who grew up in the 1900’s to notice the changes than it is for the younger generations. For instance, the shape of the US jet stream which affects our climate & storm formations which never used to dip further south than the Dallas area has been dipping down into central Mexico during the warmer months since the axis shifts began in 2003 & 2004. This is exactly what we would expect with an axis shift.

      The axis shift has also shifted the southernmost dip of our Jet stream farther south in Sumner & further north in winter. During the winter months it barely dips below Canada causing horrific storms & blizzards in the New England states and the states north of the Mason Dixon line. However, since the winter jet stream dip no longer comes down to Texas & no longer brings down the Canadian cold air, the southern states now experience warmer winters. Just follow the jet stream. Cold air from Canada or the Rockies impacting the warm, moist gulf air is what creates those huge thunderstorms with pouring rain, tornadoes & floods. So the change in axis tilt has had a major impact on the position of the jet stream. However, it is mostly those of us who are over 45 who remember the weather patterns. The Canadian Inuit tribes have noticed a difference in the sun position as well. So when you are reading opinions, keep in mind the age group of the person providing them. Age group affects knowledge, quality of education, attitude & personal experience.

      Other impacts on the weather is the Coriolis effect. Since the first axis shift I we have seen land based hurricane storm systems which sit over the central US spinning like a giant fan or hurricane between Canada & the gulf coast pulling down cold air from Canada & Warm air from the Gulf like huge scooping fan blades creating a spinning deluge of rain dumping huge volumes of rain as it rotates over one region for days and even weeks in late spring.

      I have years of weather satellite images to show the changes from before the first shift & the formation of these lard hurricanes after the first shift when these spinning land hurricanes appeared over the central US between mid April & mid June. We had over 30 inches last May 2015. 10 inches this past January in less than one week. At the time of my January post only 6 inches had rained. It was over 10 inches when it had finished.

      You can see these spinning land hurricane formation images on the link below. Remember, you will only see the axis change effects from 2005 and later. I included pre-2004 weather images for comparison. These are special weather loops. For instance, each frame of the monthly images equals one day of the month at exactly 4PM. So for May 2007, the weather animation will show you each day of the month at 4PM. Keep an eye on Oklahoma for the spinning storms I described which occurred every spring, day after day from the last week of April thru the first week of June. But only after 2005. Not before.

      I also included daily satellite weather loops for certain days during those months if you wanted to view the entire day.

      Another effect of the axis shift is on the temperatures of the oceans & oceanic flow patterns. The pacific coast used to have frigid arctic waters along the California coast. Quite a difference from our warm Atlantic coast or gulf coast. I have lived on both coasts & the gulf area as well. There is a huge temperature difference. The icy cold Pacific coast waters before the axis began shifting in 2003 & 2004 caused rain storms to develop every winter when the warm air contacted the frigid coastal waters which flowed down the California coast from Alaska. Creating weekly winter rain in California and snow in the mountains. Since the axis shift, the Pacific coast waters are warmer causing a drought. The shortage of water is also impacted by rice farmers who use an entire lake full of water per crop each year to fill their rice fields. Then dump the water at the end of the season. Massive amounts of wasted water on unneeded rice crops while warehouses in Thailand have tons of rice rotting in storage while California’s precious water resources are wasted. Are these California rice farmers paying for the billions of gallons of water they are wasting?

      Other things which occurred since the initial 2003 & 2004 axis shifts include heat waves in the UK and tornadoes in Europe. Our South Africa correspondent has told us about the effects on Whales from the South pole, etc. We’ve also seen the deaths of penguins who may become extinct… along with the whales. The only good thing will be the loss of sharks from lack of favored food sources but not until sharks have shifted to humans and dolphins as an alternate food source.


      Comment by mmc7 — February 22, 2016 @ 10:32 pm | Reply

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